Flarum Is Now On GitHub

  1. 5 years ago

    Toby

    22 Dec 2014 Administrator

    A few months ago, we announced Flarum — beautiful new forum software — in the form of a Kickstarter campaign. Within a week, based on a lot of feedback and some careful consideration, we decided to pull the plug on the Kickstarter . Instead, we pledged to develop Flarum collaboratively as an open-source project.

    Today, the journey begins. I have just pushed Flarum in its current (very pre-alpha) state to GitHub . Everything you need to know is in the README : what we’re making, why we’re making it, what technologies we’re using, what needs to be done, and how to dig in.

    Redesign

    It’s worth noting that I am working on a substantial redesign of Flarum’s interface. This has come about as a result of feedback and self-evaluation following the Kickstarter campaign. You can read all about it and view mockups on this GitHub issue — I would love to get some feedback.

    Questions

    If you have any questions after reading through the README , please don’t hesitate to discuss them on the Flarum Development Forum , on IRC (#flarum on irc.freenode.net ), or tweet @Flarum . I’m very excited to hear what you have to say!

    Thanks once again to all those who have supported Flarum right through from the Kickstarter until now. Your words of encouragement and enthusiasm have kept me going, and I can’t wait to see where this goes in the future.

  2. Toby, you're such a gud guy. ermagherd. I was wondering when you'd put it on github. I'll see what I can do.

  3. [deleted]

    23 Dec 2014
    Deleted 5 years ago by Toby
  4. I wish I had more 'else simple installation

  5. cool :) nice work!

  6. @babbab I wish I had more 'else simple installation

    It's practically in a "pre-alpha" state. You can't expect much.

  7. happy to see flarum is up!

  8. I hope it would be possible to build a design / theme which is as good as Esotalk :)
    Wonderful simple, clean and also easy to use with a mobile!

    Don't know if it will be possible to make Flarum better than and as fast as Esotalk *g*

  9. Is there a webserver running Flarum in the wild?

  10. @Toby, I am so grateful that you made the decision to open source this amazing creation. EsoTalk (I guess I should call it Flarum ;) ) is a beautiful platform which I cannot wait to pull down and tinker with. It was a win-win situation for everyone.

    And hey, if you are still looking to make some cash from this creation you could offer a hosting service of some sort. That's what the guys over at NodeBB and Discourse have done--their code is open-source but they have a hosting service for clients.

    In closing, thanks again sir. This has made my day brighter!!

  11. 4 years ago
    Edited 4 years ago by Sceko

    when it will be available install on the shared instalation like esotalk?

  12. Toby

    24 Mar 2015 Administrator

    When it's ready.

  13. At the moment the demo initial page load is 10+ seconds. Topics are loaded with 1-2 (sometimes 5) seconds.
    So (initial) page load have to be improved dramatically to be a Esotalk replacement (my small Esotalk forum loads instant with <1sec per page).

    Flarum UI is really nice and better than other forum software (nodebb, phpbb, smf, ...), but it should be as fast as (or faster than!) competitors.
    Unfortunately it shouldn't be possible to be as fast as Esotalk because of the used frameworks.

  14. Edited 4 years ago by Thirtysixway

    @pwFoo At the moment the demo initial page load is 10+ seconds. Topics are loaded with 1-2 (sometimes 5) seconds.
    So (initial) page load have to be improved dramatically to be a Esotalk replacement (my small Esotalk forum loads instant with <1sec per page).

    Flarum UI is really nice and better than other forum software (nodebb, phpbb, smf, ...), but it should be as fast as (or faster than!) competitors.
    Unfortunately it shouldn't be possible to be as fast as Esotalk because of the used frameworks.

    Okay I did some investigating and I'm thinking it's not Flarum that's slow - it's just network latency.

    I'm seeing closer to 3.5 or 4 seconds with no caching and not being logged in. The longest wait is for vendor.js. Most of the time is spent waiting for the initial connection to complete, and then the initial first byte being received. When you lookup the IP of demo.flarum.org , it's hosted at 128.199.148.98 which is a digital ocean IP in their Singapore datacenter. This is geographically close to Australia which is where most of the dev is going on. I imagine if you're in the US or somewhere far away, that your connection latency would be a lot higher as it has to travel across the world and back :)

    edit: You can see this yourself if you run ping demo.flarum.org in your command prompt. I'm getting ~250ms of latency. Compare it to something like ping www.microsoft.com (a site designed to be generally available everywhere) and I receive more like 11ms.

  15. Hi @Thirtysixway ,
    thank you for your reply! That's an point which I haven't in mind because esotalk.org is fast...
    But you're right!

    esotalk.org / demo.flarum.org (128.199.148.98)

    3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 365.723/368.485/372.060/2.650 ms

    google.com (173.194.44.73)

    2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 31.802/32.401/33.001/0.625 ms

    Latency is really bad and it isn't an Flarum issue!
    But I'm much more excited about Esotalk page load with that latency!

  16. I guess I meant to say that sure flarum right now may still be slower than esoTalk. For me it appears to be more about latency/caching.

  17. demo_flarum_org.png

  18. How can i install Flarum? Can i do it the same way as esotalk or it needs more knowledge ? I am using sharing Host company.

    Thanks !

  19. [deleted]

    6 Apr 2015

    Flarum is not installed in the same way esoTalk is. To install Flarum, please click here for direct instructions from Toby.

    If you aren't too comfortable performing such things on your own, it would be the better option to download, install and use esoTalk until Flarum is officially released (it is what I am doing for my forums). Toby has already announced that you will be able to migrate from esoTalk to Flarum fairly easily.

    What hosting company are you with if you don't mind me asking?

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    9 Apr 2015
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